Glen Mill PoW Camp, Oldham
This page is often updated with new information and memoirs. Please see updates within the main text and in the comments section below. Most recent update, 14 May 2022
A visit to the site of Glen Mill Prisoner of War camp in Lees, Oldham, Winter 2013.
Photo above; is looking towards the site of Glen Mill from the line of the now dismantled railway.
Below; a train passing Glen Mill in 1955.
Below; Glen Mill from the cemetery.
One of the main prisoner of war camps in the north west of England, the now demolished Glen Mill was situated between Wellyhole Street / Constantine Street and the River Medlock at Lees in Oldham (Grid Ref SD 949 049).
These photos were taken January 2013 during a visit to look for traces of the camp. There is not much left, though some local people were able to confirm the spot.
It is possible to find bits of concrete and iron which date from the war and piles of red brick from the now demolished mill.
Below; This first photo shows a new wall on top of what was a pill box overlooking the main entrance. There is a similar mound just next to it.
Below; Bit of metal jutting out of the ground in the woods between the camp and the river.
Below; Fence post. Some iron gates nearby appear to date from the war too.
The camp could accommodate around 6,000 inmates and during the course of the war was home to a largely transient population of German and Italian prisoners and also some Russians who had been fighting for the Nazis.
Christmas 1942 saw the camp filled with Italians captured at Libya, while the summer of 1944 saw the camp filled with Germans captured at Normandy.
Below; Remains of drainage system
The April 2013 issue of Britain at War magazine tells the story of prisoner Paul Hartmann who was shot dead by Gunner J A Jaffray in February 1945. The incident came after a roll call lasting hours and during which the Germans had obstructed the counting to cover up an escape attempt.
As rain began to fall, the inmates started shuffling forward towards Gunner Jaffray who was at a sentry post and armed with a Lee Enfield .303 rifle. At the inquest, the British said the Germans were restless and being obstructive, refusing to obey orders, singing Nazi songs and insulting the guards. The Germans said they were singing love songs and were not abusing the guards at all!
Either way, Gunner Jaffray challenged the prisoners to halt in their advance towards him. He was ignored and believing he was about to be over-run by the mass of prisoners, he fired from the hip into the crowd. The bullet struck 18 years old Paul Hartmann, killing him instantly.
The article quotes Unteroffizier Fritz Hermann Scheer; “We were jumping about to keep warm. Suddenly I heard a report and felt something on my face. I put my hand up and found blood and bone splinters on my face. My eye and cheek were cut by splinters. In my eye it was metal, in my face it was bone.”
Gunner Jaffray was exonerated at the inquest the following April. That same month, an Italian prisoner of war at Bury was hailed as a hero for giving his life to save that of a young girl from drowning in the River Irwell.
Please see the image below from the Daily Herald showing PoWs giving the Nazi salute at Paul Hartman’s funeral (under heading 29 May 2017 update)
Below; Photos taken at Glen Mill POW camp on Christmas Eve 1940. Photos used with IWM Non-Commercial Licence.
The same day these photos were taken, just a few miles away in Manchester, fire crews were dealing with the results of Luftwaffe bombing raids on the city. This is Piccadilly. Click on this link for more about air raids on Manchester.
This is part of a Luftwaffe map (from the British Library) for Manchester, showing the camp circled with a note for bomber crews to avoid hitting the area. The note says “Achtung Deutsches Gefangenenlager in Oldham – Leeds” (“Attention German prison camp in Oldham – Leeds”; the cartographer confusing the Oldham place name Lees with that of the city of Leeds)
I am uncertain as to the source / copyright of this photo, if anyone knows, please advise?
My photos and story of the German Military Cemetery in Staffordshire
This British Pathé video shows German PoWS at Glen Mill
UPDATES AUGUST 2015
These five images have been provided by James Farrell and are used here with his kind permission. Earlier this summer, Jim was visiting an antiques shop in Bristol and the lady who runs it said she had something “a bit special” which might interest him. It was a sketchbook which has on the front cover the name Friedrich Fraubose and a watercolour painting of the town of Hildesheim which is south of Hannover. Jim says “the book contains a watercolour cartoon history of approx 30 pages from when he first arrived to when he left Glen Mill. The front pages of the book also contain watercolours of places in Germany.”
It is really interesting to get a glimpse Glen Mill from the perspective of the prisoners of war.
Jim also purchased a plaque which has the crest of the Dorsetshire Regiment at centre, with two swastikas, a Luftwaffe eagle emblem top left (without a swastika in its claws) and a German eagle emblem bottom right, again with no swastika. Jim says “The plaque is made of wood and probably made from a cupboard door, it has been made and painted extremely skilfully, and is signed with the initials FF in the bottom RH corner.”
(NB; Jim has kindly sent me all 31 images. I have uploaded all these in a separate page, please see here)
The plaque has the words OLDHAM KRIEGSGEFANGENSCHAFT ENGLAND – kriegsgefangenschaft means prisoner of war.
Below; Front cover;
Below; a few examples from the book The caption refers to the morning head count to make sure no-one had escaped during the night.
Below; This looks like a carpentry workshop. Note the patches on the uniforms, which were a way of grading prisoners. Compare this sketch with the photo above of PoWS outside Glen Mill carrying sacks; you can see the same patches on the legs of their uniforms.
Below; the plaque
Below; The same day I received the pictures of the sketchbook, I also received this photo of a tankard presented to Lieutenant Colonel W S Tanner OBE, TD of the Royal Pioneer Corps on the occasion of his retirement in 1947. By this time, Glen Mill was a transit camp. Photo courtesy of Dave H and used with his kind permission.
UPDATE SEPTEMBER 2016
Below is a copy of a handwritten account kindly provided by Mr Steven Kay from his late aunt Mabel Entwistle and refers to her husband John (Jack) Entwistle who was caretaker at Springhead Drill Hall, now Springhead Community Centre (21 Ashes Lane, Springhead, Oldham OL4 4PF).
The account mentions two PoWS from Glen Mill. It is included here as it adds more to what we know about the relationship between some of the prisoners and the people of Oldham.
Mabel wrote “My husband was invalided out of the Army 1946? & given a job looking after Springhead Drill Hall & lived in the adjoining house. Winter of 1947 very harsh the approach to drill hall was snowed up every morning 2 prisoners from Glen Mill were sent to clear the snow. The one who spoke English best was Paul Lebau who had been a PoW for some years, some of them spent in Canada before coming to Glen. He found it an enjoyable change and couldn’t do enough for us at the Drill Hall. On March 1st that year my sister was getting married & we were attending and going in our own little Morris 8? (it was the day before). The PoW was to journey back to Germany for repatriation & his last job he did for us was to polish the little car until it shone, in appreciation for getting him one or two things like coffee etc at the shop as they were non existant in Germany.
The other POW was more of a boy & though Paul had a wife back home this boy lived with his mother & when finally returned home I received a very grateful letter from his mother thanking me for showing kindness to him.
My husband and myself went living in Canada in 1953 & Paul Lebau & us corresponded together.”
UPDATE 29 May 2017
Photo kindly provided by David Lonergan showing the funeral of Paul Hartmann, the PoW referred to above who was killed by a shot from a guard’s rifle during a disturbance at the camp.
UPDATE 25 NOVEMBER 2017
Following on from the watercolour sketches of Glen Mill by a German PoW called Friedrich Frauböse, I have received some other wonderful sketches from Glen Mill by another German PoW whose name was Feldwebel Theodor Vater, a Luftwaffe pilot or crew member.
They have very kindly been shared with us by Sean Claxton, a British tour guide to the Normandy battlefields. They were provided to him by a German tourist, a Dr Pruder whose wife’s uncle was Theodor Vater.
“Vater was captured on 22nd September 1940 having been shot down over the English Channel. He was seen thanks to releasing some dye into the water, which stayed on him for some time too, apparently.” He adds that he was picked up by the British and spent some time as a PoW in the UK before being transferred to a camp in Canada. Sean says that Feldwebel Vater gave other prisoners English lessons and adds that at 32 he was an older man compared with most of his fellow inmates.
I am hoping to receive some further information about Feldwebel Vater. On the reported day there was apparently very little activity in the air owing to bad weather. A couple of reports state that the only German aircraft shot down was a “lone Ju88 on a photo or weather reconnaissance mission was detected over the Channel south of the Isle of Wight and 234 Squadron from Middle Wallop sent one flight to intercept. The Junkers was shot down and made a belly landing in the sea. All the crew managed to get out of the sinking aircraft and were captured by British authorities.”
UPDATE 14 June 2021 Fw Vater was Beobachter (i.e observer) on Ju88A-1 7A+AM Wn.0352, a weather reconnaissance flight over the English Channel off Newhaven. The crew had sent their report but were attacked at 6,500 feet by a Spitfire at 1315 on 22 September 1940. The Ju88’s starboard engine was hit and the aircraft ditched in the Channel. The crew were able to get into their dingy and were picked up by a trawler ten hours later. The crew initially refused to give up any information about the purpose of the flight.
Details from Luftwaffe Crash Archive Volume 4, Nigel Parker 2014.
Photos below are courtesy of a Dr Pruder via Sean Claxton and used with kind permission. Regarding the photos, I have not edited these in any way, they are as scanned by Sean who notes that the 5th sketch was done on a packet of dental magnesium and the 6th sketch was done on the back of a cigarette packet. To zoom in and see them better, just right click over a picture and select ‘View image.’
UPDATE 19 February 2022
Re the request for information below, Mr Taylor has noted the German PoW referred to here was at Hemel Hempstead and may not have been at Oldham at all, but this update will remain in case anyone viewing this page has information about Walter Reeh.
Request for information from a Mr Eric Taylor of Seattle. He posted a query in the comments thread, but it is copied here for convenience;
“Seeking information on a German POW, Walter Reeh, who may have been held at the Oldham, Lancashire, camp. A photo of a group of 13 prisoners, including Walter, taken 5 May 1946, includes a placard at their feet that includes the date, a large number “2” and the initials “OL” which leads me to believe they stand for Oldham, Lancashire. The photo postcard was sent to Walter’s brother, Reverend A.E. Reeh, First Baptist Church, LaSalle, Colorado, via Prisoner of War Post, or Kriegsgefangenen Post. A stamp on the back of the postcard reads: “German P.O.W. (W) Camp 235 Gt. Britain.”
Mr Taylor adds that Walter Reeh is seated second from left in the photo. If anyone has any information, please reply here or email me and I will forward to Mr Taylor. My email address is on the contact page of this website.
UPDATE APRIL 2022
The photo above is of the late Otto Adler, a former PoW at Glen Mill. It is provided by Patricia Clarke and is used here with her kind permission.
Patricia told me about Otto, how he and his friend Karl Gruene worked on farms on Alt Lane, Oldham at the end of the war. The two PoWs worked with the brother of Pat’s friend Elsie, who is in her 90s now and lives in Oldham. As a teenager, she lived with her family next door to what was The Welcome Inn on Abbeyhills Road. Elsie became friends with Otto and Karl after an incident which Pat describes:
Across the road at the end of Alt Lane, the German POWs used to wait in all weathers to be picked up by trucks after working at the local farms. One day it was freezing cold and raining and Elsie’s mum sent her across the road with mugs of hot tea to warm them up, showing compassion. The view of Elsie’s mother was that “They are someone’s sons and husbands, and I would like to think if it were our lads, someone would take care of them,”
When they watched from their window they saw the men spitting out the brew! Shocked and upset thinking they were being disrespectful and ungrateful she vowed not to do it again.Till someone alerted her to the fact that they were spitting out the tea leaves that they weren’t used to!
Otto was part of this group and built up a friendship over decades, each visiting the other after the war had ended and beyond.
By a remarkable coincidence, on another page on this website and relating to the V1 flying bomb which came down on Radcliffe near Bury on Christmas Eve 1944, someone called Charlotte commented ten years ago (April 2012) that as a 13 year old school girl, she was chatting with her PoW friend Otto Adler (in the story, Otto said to Charlotte, “I think you would have liked it to land on your school!”)
Four years later, another person of the same age and from the same school called Ian commented on how Otto was a paratrooper captured in Holland, and that he was a farmer from Ravensburg in Baden-Württemberg in southern Germany and how he visited often after the war. Ian says Otto died around 2014.
The reason Otto was at Radcliffe while an inmate at Glen Mill was because some prisoners were given jobs to do in the Manchester area. Elsie’s friend Brenda used to see the Germans marching to Mummps station, “singing their heads off.”
Of course there is another coincidence; the same morning that V1 bomb fell at Radcliffe, another fell at Abbeyhills Road in Oldham.
UPDATE 14 MAY 2022
This page has an interview with a former worker at Glen Mill, Trudy Costello who was born in Austria in 1932 and came to Oldham after the war.
Gertude Costello née Kogelnik