Wellington bomber Z8799

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Wellington bomber Z8799 memorial

In the early hours of 16th November 1943, Wellington Z8799 piloted by Australian Flight Sergeant Joe Timperon crashed on Aglezarke Moor, east of Chorley, Lancashire. Probable cause is often said to have been the build up of ice. Unable to pull out of a steep dive, the aircraft crashed on the moor killing all 6 on board. This was a night training exercise. The memorial plaque has the incorrect date of the crash, but a more recent plaque dedicated to the memory of Flt. Sgt. Timperon, placed on the 60th anniversary, rectifies that.

Crew;
Flt. Sgt. J. Timperon
Sgt. E.R. Barnes
Sgt. J.B. Hayton
Sgt. R.S. Jackson
Sgt. G.E. Murray
Sgt. M. Mouncey

Photo of the crash site here;
http://aircrashsites.co.uk/air-crash-sites-5/wellington-z8799-hurst-hill-lancashire/

12 comments on “Wellington bomber Z8799
  1. Neal. says:

    I see none of them were officers, is that due to the shortage of them at that time of the war?

  2. Ian D B says:

    Lots of flights had no officer on board, bombing missions and training exercises alike, but how that was organised is maybe something someone can advise on?

  3. Tech Owl says:

    Quite a substantial memorial, especially compared to some of the other sites you’ve shown

  4. Ian D B says:

    This monument is a few miles from the crash site, which is higher on the moor quite close to the prehistoric relic of Round Loaf, though there are no longer any visible remains. It is unusual to have a memorial like this. At most there might be a plaque on a rock or a cross maybe and the odd poppy. It was funded by the Rotary Club. The more recent plaque (2003) looks like it was added by the family of the Australian skipper.

  5. pasujoba says:

    Great history ,Ian , as ever.
    I think (and may be wrong but….) the RAF started to use uncommisioned officers to fly planes fairly early in the war due to the hefty losses in the battle of britain and the later bombing raids , the first of which were very costly in lives .

  6. Ian D B says:

    Makes sense.

    It’s unimaginable how they did it, knowing that every day there was a good chance they be killed. hard to understand that scale of loss.

  7. redrocker_9 says:

    I love coming here Ian and getting all of this history, thank you for sharing ^.^

  8. Tony-H says:

    On the issue of NCO Aircrew, the normal route in WWII would be for enlisted men to volunteer for aircrew training following basic training, and be accepted provided they were suitable both physically and academically. The RAF needed Navigators, Wireless Ops, Gunners etc. as well as Pilots, and they would be assessed and allocated duties according to the RAF’s needs and the man’s skills. For example, those good at maths would probably be selected for Navigator training.

    On completion of their aircrew training a selected few might be offered commissions, though the majority would be given NCO ranks. Some NCO aircrew might also be offered commissions later in their service, depending on how much they had impressed their superiors.

    So. I think the majority of RAF aircrew in the later stages of the war would be NCOs, so an entire NCO bomber aircrew wouldn’t be at all unusual.

  9. Ian D B says:

    Thanks for that Tony.

  10. Gary Shield says:

    Very nice memorial and shot Ian

  11. Pleasureprinciple2012 says:

    I echo the sentiments of Redrocker 9, there must be lots of these memorials all over the country, and all with a story to tell, thankfully you have made a start, be nice if others were able to follow your lead.

  12. humilesspiritu says:

    Today I was in a cemetary and there was a section for WWII graves. It always amazes me how young these ‘fly-boys’ were – barely out of their teens and commissioned officers fighting the Battle of Britain and the like. I still cannot comprehend this. How on earth did we expect them at that age to have the experience of life to fight and lead others? And yet they all did, and died for us too. Makes me humble. and sad. And proud too. thanks Ian, my friend

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